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Episode 2 CODE PHRASE: "When spider webs unite, they can tie up a lion."
It's an old Ethiopian proverb: "When spider webs unite, they can tie up a lion." What do you think this code phrase means to the EVOKE Network?
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Permalink Reply by Katrina Wood on -
Sometimes, when the smallest things happen in groups, they can change something big.
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Permalink Reply by shei derek tarwep on -
this is just a description of what we ar ehere for. it is saying that UNITY IS STRENGTH.so our coming together with our little ideas will give a greater strength and impetus to it that its results will be fabulous and exciting.
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Permalink Reply by Kevin DiVico on -
Yes I agree and would add once we have the ideas then we must implement them into actoin, we need Deeds & Words to make this work. Good post - unity is strength
shei derek tarwep said:this is just a description of what we ar ehere for. it is saying that UNITY IS STRENGTH.so our coming together with our little ideas will give a greater strength and impetus to it that its results will be fabulous and exciting.
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Permalink Reply by Kevin DiVico on
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Butter fly effect eh... beat your wings in a meadow somewhere on the planet and you can trigger a hurricane somewhere else...good observation
Katrina said:Sometimes, when the smallest things happen in groups, they can change something big.
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Permalink Reply by cameron michael keys on -
William Blake wrote:
"The bird a nest, the spider a web, man friendship."
Blake was pointing to some deep analogy connecting the behavior of all tings.
Along these lines, we could read the first part of the CODE PHRASE: "When human friendships unite..."
one great mystery in science is exactly how spiders know what pattern to weave.
Rupert Sheldrake cites studies in which spider eggs were completely isolated from their mothers and hatched. The buggers weave the exact same species-specific web that spiders not isolated from mothers weave. So, the web-weaving strategy of spiders must be encoded in their body plan somehow. It's one of those interesting natural processes I wonder about sometimes.
Human friendships, the proverb is telling us [with some help from Blake] can "tie up a lion." Lions were a potential terror for villages in Africa before there were guns. We've all probably heard that rogue and evil lion prides are a thing of legend in Africa, snatching up children and what not. I would say the proverb is pointing out how human friendship -- culture -- CONQUERS THE FEAR OF LIONS.
The lion is a natural ting whose terror is amplified beyond the reasonable by fear of what could happen in the future. We're dealing with major climatic problems -- food shortages, climate change, et al. -- whose legitimate terror can be eclipsed by the power of human creativity.
This is why we're on the scene, friends!
This is why we've responded to Alchemy's call!
The capacity to solve these major problems before they destroy our global village is written into our body plan, just as the species-specific web of the spider is written into into its design! Unite! Unite!
Rupert Sheldrake also sagely points out that the spider's ability also extends to WEB REPAIR. It is important for us to realize that the networks of human interaction are already at work tackling major climate problems and resource allocation issues. It's not web creation that we need, it's web maintenance and web innovation. What we need is WEB WISDOM.
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Permalink Reply by Kevin DiVico on
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interesting... your equating the lion or rather the fear of the lion to issues that spark unreasonable fear ... those issue are complex problems as compared to simple and complicated problems. Humans can handle simple & complicated just fine, however complex issues spark irrational responses to real fear because humans in general can not encapsulate the problem let alone think of solutions...very deep and elegent analogy...bravo!
cameron michael keys said:William Blake wrote:
"The bird a nest, the spider a web, man friendship."
Blake was pointing to some deep analogy connecting the behavior of all tings.
Along these lines, we could read the first part of the CODE PHRASE: "When human friendships unite..."
one great mystery in science is exactly how spiders know what pattern to weave.
Rupert Sheldrake cites studies in which spider eggs were completely isolated from their mothers and hatched. The buggers weave the exact same species-specific web that spiders not isolated from mothers weave. So, the web-weaving strategy of spiders must be encoded in their body plan somehow. It's one of those interesting natural processes I wonder about sometimes.
Human friendships, the proverb is telling us [with some help from Blake] can "tie up a lion." Lions were a potential terror for villages in Africa before there were guns. We've all probably heard that rogue and evil lion prides are a thing of legend in Africa, snatching up children and what not. I would say the proverb is pointing out how human friendship -- culture -- CONQUERS THE FEAR OF LIONS.
The lion is a natural ting whose terror is amplified beyond the reasonable by fear of what could happen in the future. We're dealing with major climatic problems -- food shortages, climate change, et al. -- whose legitimate terror can be eclipsed by the power of human creativity.
This is why we're on the scene, friends!
This is why we've responded to Alchemy's call!
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Permalink Reply by M. Carolina Orgnero on -
I like, Derrick, your analogy to a fiber, something that is the smallest unit of a fabric. Your reply made me think that if each of us share our talents, even if we consider them "small", all of our talents combined can make a huge difference in how we appreciate and solve problems.
Derrick K. Jones said:That even the smallest fibers in the world, when combined, can take on the greatest challenges of life. We are each a fiber of this world and if we would just come together to combine our strengths there would be nothing that we could not conquer.
Be a fiber.
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Permalink Reply by cameron michael keys on
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The reason our fear of vast complexity is beyond reasonable is just like the fear of lions in these village situations, I would say. The lion is certainly overpowering and impossible to defeat FOR AN ISOLATED INDIVIDUAL WITH NO TOOLS. But this is not the village! The village is togetherness and techne.
Also, I would point out that tying up a lion with spider's webs requires A LOT OF STONGER-THAN-STEEL IDEAS. Massive cooperation and free thinking are vital.
Another point about spider's webs is how they distribute weight. A huge moth hits a web, and the weight is distributed throughout the network of fibers. A pulse of wind is powerful enough to destroy the web, but it doesn't, because the web is prepared. The web has a balance of tension. A web has integrity.
Kevin DiVico said:interesting... your equating the lion or rather the fear of the lion to issues that spark unreasonable fear ... those issue are complex problems as compared to simple and complicated problems. Humans can handle simple & complicated just fine, however complex issues spark irrational responses to real fear because humans in general can not encapsulate the problem let alone think of solutions...very deep and elegent analogy...bravo!
cameron michael keys said:William Blake wrote:
"The bird a nest, the spider a web, man friendship."
Blake was pointing to some deep analogy connecting the behavior of all tings.
Along these lines, we could read the first part of the CODE PHRASE: "When human friendships unite..."
one great mystery in science is exactly how spiders know what pattern to weave.
Rupert Sheldrake cites studies in which spider eggs were completely isolated from their mothers and hatched. The buggers weave the exact same species-specific web that spiders not isolated from mothers weave. So, the web-weaving strategy of spiders must be encoded in their body plan somehow. It's one of those interesting natural processes I wonder about sometimes.
Human friendships, the proverb is telling us [with some help from Blake] can "tie up a lion." Lions were a potential terror for villages in Africa before there were guns. We've all probably heard that rogue and evil lion prides are a thing of legend in Africa, snatching up children and what not. I would say the proverb is pointing out how human friendship -- culture -- CONQUERS THE FEAR OF LIONS.
The lion is a natural ting whose terror is amplified beyond the reasonable by fear of what could happen in the future. We're dealing with major climatic problems -- food shortages, climate change, et al. -- whose legitimate terror can be eclipsed by the power of human creativity.
This is why we're on the scene, friends!
This is why we've responded to Alchemy's call!
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Permalink Reply by Kathleen Johnson on
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It's one thing to say we need to work together to solve problems but it is a big challenge to actually accomplish this when we don't have many (any?) models to guide us. Where in history do we have models of massively networked humans solving big problems? We have the opportunity to do precisely this in Evoke. So if we are convinced that we can solve big problems -- then just showing up to Evoke is a step you have already taken. We're here to play, to experiment and get it done. I'll be the first to say I don't know how to do it... but I'm convinced we can figure it out.
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Permalink Reply by Maria Pedro Miala on
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Unity makes people stronger or UNITY IS A STRENGTH.
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Permalink Reply by Zaszo on -
The EVOKE network resembles a spiderweb in itself. All of us agents are connected all over the world in many network webs. With our combined efforts we can solve the world's problems (tie up the lions)....
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Permalink Reply by Gerardo Huertas on -
Hmmm....not overly impressed by the creative thinking behind this one you know...I expect more depth and complexity from you.
An example is the UNDOING of the social web or mesh provoked by increased vulnerability or by a disastrous event.
Common...you can do it!
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