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Evoke, a week to make an upgrade in the world of webapps is one thing, but to remove a major feature of the site for a week is crazy! Evoke users, tell me if I'm wrong, but this site is full of some of the most high-energy people I've seen anywhere....you could be losing all kinds of amazing people because they are losing a key way for people to connect to open-minded leaders!

Bring back the leaders tab, even if it's "compromised"!

* UPDATE* Evoke: Could you tell us how the usage patterns changed once you took down the leaderboard? That wouldd make a great blog post for one of the developers or creators of the site :)

*UPDATE # 2* How about adding a most Leading Blogs as well when it comes back.
I think having a most viewed stat might be more accurate in tracking "popularity" than the votes as well, just because not everyone is familiar with the vote system. I imagine what ends up happening is when a blog is voted on a lot, it's because the people familiar with the system have viewed it a lot. So in some sense you are getting a "Most Popular" by a certain demographic of users here (ones that know how to use it). You could even get the compliment to that and count how many people saw the blog and didn't vote. This might give you the "Most Popular by New Users".

Just some ideas

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Comment by Thomas Pinkerton on March 25, 2010 at 3:17pm
You know, I can't help but wonder if this isn't part of the game. Gradually parts of it that we relied on, before, get hacked by Citizen X. So, we have to start working out solutions on our own -- much like if we were part of an organization like in-game Evoke having to ward off hackers/interlopers.

In other words, it /might/ actually be part of the game, itself.
Comment by Nicholas Nagao on March 25, 2010 at 3:25pm
I agree with you guys, which is why I modified my post. I'd like to gain something from their experiment as well, and perhaps if they share the information with all of us, then we can help them gain even more from it :)
Comment by Nicholas Nagao on March 25, 2010 at 4:41pm
Panamericana, I'm with you, I've already started thinking about this, and am happy to provide a MySQL database and Web Hosting for free if you'd like to work on it with me.
Comment by Thomas Pinkerton on March 25, 2010 at 4:44pm
Personally, I like your favorites idea better. Quality posts from lower-point players are more useful to me than seeing those with the most points.

I suppose I can understand the reasoning behind wanting the point leaders back up, as well, however.
Comment by Nicholas Nagao on March 25, 2010 at 4:46pm
In this case while I don't think it's perfect, I think it's better then nothing, which is apparently the choices at the moment hehe
Comment by Nicholas Nagao on March 25, 2010 at 4:52pm
Panamerica, I'm happy to make this happen and let you run the show!

Evoke, please check out the updates here including my new idea which starts with:
*UPDATE # 2* How about adding a most Leading Blogs as well when it comes back.
Comment by Nicholas Nagao on March 25, 2010 at 4:59pm
Panamericana, do you have Google Wave? I have been using Wave to flush out ideas like this. I would like to try using it, and sharing the Wave with this community. There is even supposed to be a way to embed the Wave into place, which I think would be great on a site like this. If you have a Wave account, and are interested in working on this with me, please send me a message!

ANYONE that is interested in getting in on this please contact me! I'm open to talking to anyone! Especially young people and students! If you're interesting in learning how to build a web application and then marketing and running it, let's do this together!

I will be writing a blog to kick this project off tonight!
Comment by Turil Cronburg on March 25, 2010 at 5:06pm
I'll offer this here, too (and maybe I'll make a post about it on my own blog, at some point)...

One more balanced way to score people's contributions to the game would be to use percentages. Each person starts out with their power scores at 10% each, totaling 100%. And then those percentages change based on the kinds of powers you demonstrate in the game. You always have 100% total power, but your levels for the things you're better at will raise, while the levels for things you're less good at will fall, giving people a good idea of the kind of power you are capable of wielding. And your persona goal would be to be seen as the kind of person you want to be. For example, I'd like to have the highest percentage of Creativity, Vision, and Knowledge, so I'd aim to boost those power points the most.

Does this make sense?
Comment by Nicholas Nagao on March 25, 2010 at 5:31pm
There is always a place for Generalists! In fact, I think lots of people would call that a Renaissance person, not a generalist! We'll make sure to keep that in mind when coming up with these Evoking People Types.
Comment by Turil Cronburg on March 25, 2010 at 5:37pm
Yes, if your goal is to be a generalist, then you'd aim to have balanced powers, all staying around 10%. It's up to you to pick your goal for what makes a winning score for you.


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