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I would like to discuss morality.

First take a look at: www.urgentevoke.com/forum/topics/morality-1.

Which moral values do you think are most important? Do you agree with Mark S. Schwartz that trustworthiness, respect, responsibility, fairness, caring and citizenship are the most important ones?

1. How would you react when confronted with the following moral dilemma?:
You enter a quiz and the winning team will be awarded $10,000 for the charity of their choice.
You find a copy of the questions before the quiz. Is it okay to
cheat for the benefit of a charity?


2. A new one:
In Europe, a woman was near death from a special kind of cancer. There was one drug that the doctors thought might save her. It was a form of radium that a druggist in the same town had recently discovered. the drug was expensive to make, but the druggist was charging ten times what the drug cost him to make. He paid $400 for the radium and charged $4,000 for a small dose of the drug. The sick woman's husband, Heinz, went to everyone he knew to borrow the money and tried every legal means, but he could only get together about $2,000, which is half of what it cost. He told the druggist that his wife was dying, and asked him to sell it cheaper or let him pay later. But the druggist said, "No, I discovered the drug and I'm going to make money from if." So, having tried every legal means, Heinz gets desperate and considers breaking into the man's store to steal the drug for his wife.

3. And another one:

You are the network administrator for a rather large company. You have a young family and need your job to support them. As part of your responsibility as a network administrator is to monitor the emails for the organization. Usually this just means occasionally allow through emails for staff members that have been accidentally blocked by the spam filters. One day you get a helpdesk request from a staff member asking for an email to get released. Normally it’s standard procedure except this time the request has come from the wife of a very good friend of yours. You recognize the name on the helpdesk request so quickly attend to the problem. As part of the procedure you need to manually open up the email to ensure that it isn’t spam, so you do and you discover that it certainly isn’t spam. You find that it’s actually an email to your friends wife from her lover. You scan the rest of the contents of the email and there is no doubt that she has been having an affair for some time now. You release the email, but you can’t decide what to do. You’re initial reaction is to call your friend up and tell him about the email, however you quickly realize that company policy is very strict about revealing the contents of confidential emails of staff members regardless of the contents and unless someone’s life is in immediate danger, under no circ**stances are you permitted to reveal the information. In any case you know that revealing this information presents great risk, because even if you don’t do it directly, there is a good chance that the dots will be joined somewhere along the line and you will be found out. However you feel that by not telling you friend that you are aiding his wife get away with adultery and this troubles you greatly. What do you do?


4. Because there are some great discussions going on, here is another one:
You are a recruiter for an executive recruitment firm that has recently been retained by one of the largest corporations in the United States to find appropriate candidates for the position of President of the corporation. If the corporation hires one of the candidates you find then your firm will receive one third of the President’s cash compensation —— salary and bonus, an amount in excess of $750,000. Several weeks into the recruitment process it becomes clear to you that the company has gone about the search in a severely flawed way, making it highly unlikely that it will find the kind of candidates it needs. The Board of Directors, in your judgment, has allowed the CEO to control the search. It is clear to you that he wants someone who will be deferential towards him, which, in your judgment, will make it extremely difficult to attract the most highly qualified candidates. You discuss the issue with your superior. She says that given the intensely competitive environment for executive search firms, it would seriously disadvantage your firm to offend the Board of Directors of one of America’s largest corporations. She reminds you that the Board of Directors is responsible for hiring the President of the Corporation. A recruitment firm, she says, bears no legal liability if a candidate it presents to a company is hired and proves unsuccessful in his position. What should you do in this situation, and why?

Very resourceful answers so far!

Thank you!

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Comment by Janak Patel on May 7, 2010 at 7:20am
I would not cheat. This is a game of chance. Someone will definately win, and winning benifits one charity. There is a chance someone has the same charity as you, so cheating would be pointless. Not only that, but cheating takes away money from another equally deserving charity. There are a few other things, but I gtg ^_^ so yeah I would not cheat.
Comment by A.V.Koshy on May 7, 2010 at 7:25am
i agree
i wouldnt cheat either
Comment by Julio Cesar Corona Ortega on May 7, 2010 at 7:44am
To be honest, I do not think "morality" is a necessity at all. It is just a construct to describe what politics, religion or society deem "good", and they are as fickle and variable as the human mind itself.

Now, about your examples:

1. No, let the game play out. If you cheat, it stops being a game and it becomes red-tape.

2. Yes, rob the bastard. The moment the "druggist" decided to charge an unreasonable amount of money for something just because he came up with it first, does not give him the right to refuse help to another human being at the brink of death when they cannot meet his ridiculous price.
Comment by A.V.Koshy on May 7, 2010 at 7:49am
lol, julio
Comment by Rick van der Pluijm on May 7, 2010 at 7:57am
I agree with all of you on the quiz example. Your second reply is interesting Julio Cesar Corona Ortega, I wonder what others will say about this.
Comment by A.V.Koshy on May 7, 2010 at 8:16am
well i think i could make him bring the prices down by playing on his sense of morality
make him feel good ,raise self esteem, inject philanthropic ideas
if not then use spiritual force
like forms of resistance , boycott etc...
Comment by Julio Cesar Corona Ortega on May 7, 2010 at 8:20am
If somebody charges 10 times what something costs them to manufacture, even if somebody's life may depend on affording it, they will not respond to any amount of begging, pleading or reasoning.

That is one lesson the U.S. economy and it's broken healthcare system have taught us quite plainly.
Comment by A.V.Koshy on May 7, 2010 at 8:22am
violence loses one society's support except in very rare cases
another option would be - borrow the meds and forget to pay back :)
Comment by A.V.Koshy on May 7, 2010 at 8:22am
i look respectable i could pull it off
Comment by A.V.Koshy on May 7, 2010 at 8:22am
but would do it only in case of dire emergency

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