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so this wh*** thing got started with this post here. you should check it out. lots of good back and forth going on there.

and i was going to talk about this anyways, but i've been holding off, because, well, its a big button issue....

cultural sensitivity is highly over rated.

wait!

stay with me here

a culture is just a collection of practices. that somehow got all glommed together and now its, i dunno, history and people and a link with something....

some of these cultural practices are not good

in some places in africa, they still practice the cutting of the rose. that's where they remove a womans clitoris when she comes of age. do i have your attention now?

in some cultures, they stone a wh*** family if a 30 yr olf man rapes a 12 yr old girl. they stone the little girl and her family.

in the americas, we spend more money on subsidizing the corn industry than we spend on foreign aid. Why? cause he's a farmer and his dad was a farmer and his dad before him ever since we came and killed the native people. it's culturally significant.

well, after that (and there is more, you know there is more), y'know, maybe i am not so concerned about culture all the time. not all of it at least. i'm not saying lets have a mcdonalds on every corner. i'm saying lets stop killing people, lets stop hurting and mutilating people, lets stop keeping people sick because some religious leader says so

enough already. it makes me sick. good people doing nothing, hiding behind a flimsy blood soaked curtain of 'cultural sensitivity'!

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Comment by Edrian on March 13, 2010 at 12:49am
Glim, for me we shouldn't condemn their culture. For us, their culture seems inhumane or not right if we refer to practicality. But, on the other way around, to them our culture isn't that good too. Maybe we should just respect their tradition and let them realize about that.

One reason why they still practice those stuff is because they are not educated for them to realize that. Maybe, we should educate them first.
Comment by glim on March 13, 2010 at 7:54pm
i am totally with you on this. i didn't mention education in the original post, only because it seemed obvious. education is always the way. just, sometimes educators needs to be a little ...bolder with gettin' in there. also, sometimes its just so sad to think about how unbalanced it seems. education takes time, but the stomp of a boot takes so little time. the oppressors and the killers, they work so much faster.

as people working for a change, sometimes i think we need to move decisively, and with impunity. some day in the future, critics might decry the steps taken, but what is happening now is wrong.

and maybe we need to take that chance.
Comment by Raymond M. Kristiansen on March 13, 2010 at 7:58pm
so many tragedies have been committed by people who for different reasons think they should move decisively.
Comment by Linda Holt on March 13, 2010 at 8:08pm
"as people working for a change, sometimes i think we need to move decisively, and with impunity. some day in the future, critics might decry the steps taken, but what is happening now is wrong." I trust that your stand is to improve the quality of life and, indeed, life itself in developing countries, but I think force and "impunity" are the enemy of what we are trying to achieve. I'm not sure that the people in Iraq, who have been ravaged by the philosophy of "do it and then we'll help them clean up the mess without worrying about the consequences" is sound policy. We need to carefully weigh the long term consequences in advance of our actions if we want to create sustainable results.
Comment by Bongumusa on March 13, 2010 at 8:16pm
That is good more especial as a new and fresh decision maker. Good points noted, a culture is a collection of practices, that is true. I like that. Culture can also play a big role to combat poverty because if practice together we can help each other.
Comment by glim on March 13, 2010 at 8:33pm
so basically what i'm getting from these last couple posts is, 'you can't point out messed up things somewhere else, because you live somewhere where there are messed up things' (@Panamericana), does, this mean that you never talk about anywhere else until everything is rectified in your country? c'mon...

and 'lets sit around and do things as slowly as possible because people taking decisive action is a bad idea' (@Linda). bad things happen fast when you move fast. good things happen fast when you move fast. let's not confuse the rate of movement with the effect.

look guys, i was just calling out a point that blanket cultural sensitivity is not all it's cut out to be.

Once again, it doesn't mean let jackboot them into submission, it doesn't mean i (or the country i happened to be born in) has all the answers

basically all i was saying is that bad people do bad things and they seem to always be on top, because we sit around so worried about stepping on someones toes that we never take a step, we just inch forward, eating others dust.
Comment by glim on March 13, 2010 at 8:42pm
@Linda did you not post here about having the audacity, courage, and heart to take care of the entire human family? i am sure that you know that taking care of a family requires hard decisions that you don't know if they are right or not, but you need to act, and you do, and you work hard and hope that you are a good enough person that you did the right thing....
Comment by glim on March 13, 2010 at 8:58pm
dude.chill. i was pointing out _examples_. i made _examples_ from 3 different countries, one of which was the united states. you are turning this into an us vs. them thing. i was saying all cultures are messed up. you seem to be missing that. if you feel like i am attacking you or your people, then write me an email about it. if you want to bash on a specific country, do it on your own time.

if you have a suggestion about solutions to blanket cultural acceptance, then feel free to post it here.
Comment by glim on March 13, 2010 at 9:13pm
there were no between the lines, you are reading too much into it.
and you are taking it all personal. i'm sorry if i offended you by what i said.
but try not to read too much into what people say,

and i'm pretty sure it sounds like you just threatened me for posting a pointed response to a person on a blog, which is silly, cause this is a blogpost not a barfight
Comment by Raymond M. Kristiansen on March 13, 2010 at 9:15pm
hey people, have a big glass of water with ICE cubes in it, free of charge :)

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