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Organism // a social collaboration platform // Evokation

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Organism Team Info

(agent) Geoff Matheson - Concept Artist and Team Leader

(agent) Gabriel Martin - Education Visionary and Team Leader

(agent) Daniel LaLiberte - Programming Expert and Team Leader

(agent) Michele Baron - Communication Expert and Team Leader

Rob Desmeres - Finance

Neal Burd*** - Interactive Design

Erik Lund - Print/Brand Design

Our team would like to be considered for all prizes available. However the prize that our team would benefit from the most would be mentorship.

Geoffrey Matheson (wintermute) is requesting a mentorship with Dan Morris

Gabriel Martin is requesting a mentorship with Erik Hersman

For more information and to join the effort please visit our site: http://www.wiserearth.org/group/Organism

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Comment by A.V.Koshy on May 16, 2010 at 4:08pm
besides noo ne can
there are as many categories as there are people and same with abilities and quite a few more
Comment by Wintermute on May 16, 2010 at 5:32pm
@ konsky, you are right. We can think up a better way. We have thought up interesting ways of representing users prestige.

Our site rather then being like evoke and most site static lists of pages, our site would be alive.
it would look like a combination of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjUuAuBcoqs
with the Ajax ability to zoom in and out. A projects or person or blog would grow physically on the site depending on the number of likes, PP, or comments, respectively. Users when they edit will like the video be represented graphically so other users can see where I am on the network and what I am editing. It obviously wouldn't be this quick. RIght now Gource is being used to represent the history of how a network was created--we want to use it to represent how users are currently creating a network live. As users zoom in to a project, if they had permission, they would see the internal structure of the network. I know that this style of visual representation is the future of the web.
Comment by Samiran Roy on May 16, 2010 at 5:42pm
Oh wow, will we be able to see the 'Organism' grow like that?
Comment by Samiran Roy on May 16, 2010 at 5:43pm
Yeah, If we color code power votes
Comment by Wintermute on May 16, 2010 at 5:50pm
in deed, in real time. We were thinking cluster by tags and represent tags by color--at least for projects.
Comment by Daniel LaLiberte on May 16, 2010 at 6:01pm
An idea regarding ads, and prestige... First, it is important to be aware that collaboration systems typically attract a few people who contribute more frequently, a larger number who contribute less frequently or rarely, and many more who are merely lurkers. That is unlikely to change, though we can find ways to encourage more people to contribute more.

So how is such a system going to be supported by ads? Realizing that contributions are not all equal, in the eyes of the wider public, and that various users will have varying degrees of prestige based on the quality of their contributions (as measured by other users), we can present first and foremost the most valued contributions to the wider public, the occasional reader and lurker. Ad revenue is mostly about eyeballs after all, and attracting more eyeballs is more valuable. (It is also about quality eyeballs, but we can get into that later.) So we generally need to find ways to encourage the creation of more attractive content in the eyes of the wider public. This will tend to draw in even more people, etc.

I wouldn't want to sacrifice the quality of projects and contributions to the alter of popularity, and we should be cautious about avoiding that tarpit. But it doesn't need to go there. People should be able to do whatever they want, which might be quite unpopular, but if some of the "best" results can be propagated out to others, and out to the wider public, this might be enough to attract more people, both to increase revenue and increase participation. It could be a positive feedback loop, if done right.
Comment by Samiran Roy on May 16, 2010 at 6:14pm
I was thinking maybe create lots 'powers' and after you add content, you can choose which powers people can vote on.
The type will decide the color and the number of votes will decide the size.
Comment by Wintermute on May 16, 2010 at 6:15pm
well I am always down for positive feedback loops. The real question is in getting users to click ads, I think part of this might be in create a network where users are expected to contribute by clicking on ads.
Comment by Nick Heyming on May 16, 2010 at 6:24pm
If the ads were for companies providing technologies and services related to the projects that would make them more likely to succeed (say, an ad for z corp and their prototyping printer for appropriate organizations)
Comment by Daniel LaLiberte on May 16, 2010 at 6:32pm
Actually, you don't want to encourage users to click on ads - the advertisers and ad networks don't like that and will detect it and go elsewhere. Instead, you want to encourage creation of content that will be attractive to more valued users, and some small percentage of them, like 1 out of 1000, my click on the ads. That's all they want. What makes user more valued is that they are actually interested in the ad, not pretending to be.


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