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Censorship versus Freedom in Urgent Evoke
censorship is the absolute enemy of freedom. censorship is a weapon used by corrupt governments, cowardly corporations and conservative extremists to SILENCE dissent, restrict INFORMATION and enforce their 'morals'. simply take a look at the extreme on-going cases of Iran, North Korea, Saudi Arabia and China. even in places with laws protecting FREE SPEECH, the battle is on-going.
the arguments for censorship consists of sheltering people and children from 'inappropriate' media. those are merely a skewed rationale. what is the TRUTH? censorship takes away the RIGHTS and RESPONSIBILITIES of citizens to CHOOSE what is suitable for themselves and their children. censorship is about CONTROL.
the worst is something i call 'pre-emptive tyrannical' censorship; where a special select few choose what is 'suitable' for public viewing. in addition, this type of censorship has NO transparency and NO formal process to appeal.
sound familiar? Urgent Evoke moderators have been engaging in opaque, arbitrary censorship from the very beginning. posts and comments disappear without warning. when they occasionally grace someone with a reason, those given are ill-defined, vacillating and personal. hardly the actions of an ETHICAL organization that claims a focus on freedom and social activism.
those of us that have thought on these issues know what the TRUTH is. Urgent Evoke is still trying to CONTROL every aspect of UE. they seek to constrain the public image of Urgent Evoke to their own vision. using their stealth censorship, they are trying to silence voices of dissent and any material that does not fit with their 'safe, happy family' version of UE.
the real world can be an ugly place, sickened with murder, hatred and greed. this is WHY we are social activists. censorship does not make the bad things go away..
here's a short list of organizations that regularly fight against censorship:
http://www.aclu.org/ - American Civil Liberties Union (USA)
http://www.amnesty.org/ - Amnesty International
http://ccrjustice.org/ - Center for Constitutional Rights (USA)
http://en.rsf.org/ - Reporters Without Borders
http://www.eff.org/ - Electronic Frontier Foundation
http://www.ncac.org/ - National Coalition Against Censorship (USA)
http://www.fair.org/index.php - Fairness and Accuracy In Reporting
http://www.indexoncensorship.org/ - Index on Censorship (UK)
http://www.chillingeffects.org/ - Chilling Effects Clearinghouse
http://www.thefirstamendment.org/ - The First Amendment Project (USA)
addendum - @Michele Baron has summed up everything i have been trying to say better than i could.
remember, seek the TRUTH.
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Comment by Ethan Walden on April 25, 2010 at 1:09am
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Oh Please Jane My Goddess McGonigal, please show up,
I'm begging you!!!!
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Comment by Julio Cesar Corona Ortega on April 25, 2010 at 3:24am
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You okay, there, Ethan? O_o
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Comment by Peggie Scott on April 25, 2010 at 8:03am
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Julio, Perhaps Mission 9 will be about censorship, then I will consider censorship a topic of discussion.
I've been on forums since the BBS days and have also been a mod. There are, sadly, always those who want to disrupt, derail, and refocus the group.
You state: "The next step from Peggie's post would be shouting, cursing and name calling."
There is already shouting, or have you missed the all-cap statements. And there is already name calling, or do you not consider accusing someone of racism and hypocrisy name calling?
I intended to offer no argument. What reading I've done on the thread shows that the "evidence" offered is based on hearsay, mis-information, and supposition. None of which, I feel, warrant discussion.
I'll repeat my statement. This is a game. When you signed on you agreed to their rules. In their game they (the owners) have the right to delete posts they choose to delete, and you (the player) agreed to that condition when you signed on.
I have yet to be on a forum or discussion group where someone doesn't claim censorship. It seems to be one of the more acceptable and defensible means of trolling.
"Talking down to and ridiculing" Guilty perhaps. But I believe this venue has the potential for creating good, for making people think about solutions and for stimulating discussions of value. This thread is, imho, none of those things.
If one does not welcome comments like mine then one should be more careful whom he spams with his thoughts.
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Comment by nomadHAR on April 25, 2010 at 8:09am
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@Peggie Scott: 'If one does not welcome comments like mine'
LOL
isn't that what this is about?
anyways, if you didn't get it the last 10 times i stated it, my problem is with the lack of clear 'guidelines', lack of transparency and lack of formal appeal process.
i am getting so sick of repeating myself. LEARN TO READ
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Comment by A.V.Koshy on April 25, 2010 at 8:11am
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http://www.urgentevoke.com/profiles/blogs/who-is-the-real-owner-of-...
please read this one
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Comment by Turil Cronburg on April 25, 2010 at 11:06am
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"I have yet to be on a forum or discussion group where someone doesn't claim censorship."
Peggie, you've been participating in the wrong communities, then. :-) I created a censorship-free community (or at least no censorship by others), and it's really served it's purpose well, allowing the people who were "taking over" my own journal in a negative way (from my perspective) a space to express themselves in the way they felt was most appropriate, while also allowing myself and others who wanted other kinds of conversations to keep my space free of the stuff we didn't appreciate. It was a win-win solution.
Also, the Buddhists Livejournal community is famous for understanding the value of "trolling" as being similar to traditional Zen teachers' approaches of challenging you. Of course, not all people who troll are intentionally doing so for a positive reason, but that doesn't matter since the real challenge comes from within you, as you learn how to work with reality, rather than fight against it.
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Comment by Gabriel L. Hutalle on April 25, 2010 at 12:03pm
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your words are strong + courage for you, Philippines is a democratic country but I can't feel the democracy. I hope corruption in our country stop after the election.
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Ethan, WTH? You're going to get banned!
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